I’m trying to find more info on what my bill will look like if I swap to wind power thru OG&E @ 12000 kWh. I know it’s $7 per day but what else will show up on my bill?
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June 1st, 2009 at 5:02 am
Some companies charge a higher rate for their renewable energy plan as compared with their “conventional” plan. Some others are just the opposite.
If you are staying with the same electric company, you can compare the rate $/kWH between your existing plan and the wind energy plan. You should call them and ask what other rate are available. Most companies have contracts of 6 month, 1 year and longer. If you commit to it, the rate can be different. Just like the mobile phone company, an early termination of the contract would cause penalty.
There are other charges but since you plan on staying with the same company, they probably is there in your current bill anyway. Many electric companies do not show you all the rate, plans available. You have to keep asking and you will get the whole picture. Also, if your state has more than one electric companies, check them all. Don’t assume your current one has the lowest wind power rate. Good luck.
June 1st, 2009 at 5:28 pm
what happens is that the transmission company buys the power.
all of the other costs are the same.
i’ve never heard of green power being cheaper.
at some point, there will probably be a carbon offset fee on your bill if you’re using coal or oil.
June 5th, 2009 at 3:42 am
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June 7th, 2009 at 5:38 am
6From web site; We offer four different levels of wind power RECs. You will be billed at your selected level for 12 months.
Level Percent Of Annual kWh Usage REC Price Per kWh
A 25% $0.009 per kWh
B 50% $0.008 per kWh
C 100% $0.007 per kWh
For example, a typical OG&E homeowner uses about 12,000 kWh a year their wind power charges would be:
Level Subscription Monthly Charge
A-25% 3,000 kWh $2.25 a month
B-50% 6,000 kWh $4.00 a month
C-100% 12,000 kWh $7.00 a month
Or if you complete deal see the other attached rate sheet. Under this plan, if you don’t use you selected units, you will suffer an added cost. the above is safer for residential customers.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:55 am
You will need to contact your utility. Each one has a different program. My utilities Green Energy program costs more than regular energy. It’s not that the electricity costs more, it is a way to help expand the solar and wind programs in my state.
I found a link with info, they also have a phone number to call if you need more info.
June 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
You most likely will have to pay extra for wind power through your current power provider. Don’t do it. If you ask me it’s totally a scheme. The power generated by windmills will be used no matter what. If no one pays extra for Wind Turbine power through there energy provider the energy provider isn’t just going to disconnect the wind turbines. The energy will be used whether people buy into it or not. The fact is that wind power is financed through government initiatives and subsides and there are a lot of big companies behind it. The fact that you have to pay extra to get it is BS and you shouldn’t stand for it because your already paying to much as is. The whole thing about green energy options through your energy provider is a gimmick. They want you to feel all warm and fuzzy about buying green energy while they cash in. There are already enough suckers out there buying into it.
If you really want to support green energy write some letters to your local, and state officials. Start a group of interested citizens to help build support. Invest in green technologies in a way where you will get something for it instead of warm fuzzy feelings and more like green cash.
I **** coal. I think green energy is the future. Just don’t let the companies that run the coal and gas industry to keep taking your money otherwise things will never change.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
N T is probably right: even if you don’t pay for it, the current capacity is probably still going to get used. Where his/her argument fails is that in not paying for it, you’re not encouraging the growth of renewable energy. By paying for power generated by wind you’re saying to the company “build more wind instead of coal”.
To be honest, you’re probably not going to save any money by paying for wind, unless you get your own wind generator (and even then, it’ll be after a few years). All companies that I know of charge extra for green energy sources. The incentive for them is not to save money, but to know that you’re doing something good for the world.
June 11th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
I don’t know any companies that provide grid supplied wind power CHEAPER than non-green power. Some companies offer part of your energy as green power for free, that it’s usually less than 15% and is frankly a bit of a green wash considering 85% is still coal based.
So no it won’t save you money. But it is a VERY cheap and easy way to greatly reduce you carbon footprint and encourage renewables.
But I’d like to add a couple of things if I could (I’m in Australia and will use info from here, but it’s pretty comparitive around the world).
The EXTRA cost per year (16kw/h per day) of going 100% wind based power here is about $300 per year.
To do this with domestic solar would have an upfront cost of about $40,000, which if added to a mortgage (at a 5% interest rate) would cost $2,000.
There’s many other things that are very good with solar such as behaviour change, an ability to pay-off in the longer term, etc, but 100% green grid power is a VERY quick and easy to go totally ZERO in household energy CO2. Today.
Also, consider overall capital costs to a government.
A typical industrial sized wind turbine has an output of 1.5MW (1500KW). These cost about $4 million each, and have a productive output of 30%, or 8 hours a day, or about 12,000KW/H per day.
In Australia the average sized domestic solar system is now 1KW, as that’s the most effective size as far as government subsidies go ($8,000). The cost of 1 1KW system is about $11,000. The rated solar hours here in southern Australia (which is pretty good for solar) is about 4.5 hours per day (anually averaged). To make 12,000KW/H with domestic systems (like the wind) there would need to be 2666 solar systems, which would cost $29 million, of which about $21 million would come from government, and the other $8 million from households.
So from a whole-country perspective, or the ability to roll out renewable energy on a national scale, domestic solar isn’t even on the same planet as industrial wind generation. But as I said domestic solar is very powerful in changing behaviours. My own strategy is to go 100% wind grid power NOW (been doing it for a few years already actually), and reduce energy consumption to a small enough level (